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EULEN NACH ATHEN TRAGEN: VERSIONS FROM IRELAND - UNPUBLISHED EXAMPLES: COUNTY MONAGHAN

FIONNUALA WILLIAMS

EULEN NACH ATHEN TRAGEN: VERSIONS FROM IRELAND

UNPUBLISHED EXAMPLES:

COUNTY MONAGHAN

Mo 22.1 No use in throwing apples into an orchard 945:46.

.2 It is no good throwing apples into an orchard 956:97.

.3-6 Throwing apples into an orchard 929:139; 934:202; 940:243; 953:118. 

COUNTY LOUTH

Throwing apples into an orchard 667:18; 667:128; 672:264 (context: in list immediately prceded by 'Bringing coals to Newcastle').

Bringing coals to Newcastle 672:264 (context: in list immediately followed by 'Throwing apples into an orchard').

COUNTY CAVAN 

Cav 40.1 There is no use bringing apples to an orchard 973:243.

.2 There's no use in throwing apples into an orchard 1011:236.


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.10 Bringing apples to an orchard, bringing coal to Newcastle 1005:215.

Cav 251.1 Don't go bringing coals to Newcastle 1023:52.

.2 Bringing coal to Newcastle 1022:405.

Cav 1658.1 You need not bring turf to the bog 1003:357 (context: see Cav 40.4).

Cav 1802.1 Don't go putting wool on the sheeps back [sic] 1023:52 (context: see Cav 40.4).

COUNTY LEITRIM

Le 23.1 There's no use in throwing apples into an orchard 210:401.

23.2 Throwing an apple into an orchard 211:265.

Le 138.1 Never send coals to New Castle [sic] 202:21.

 Throwing fish into the river 198:84.

The above proverbs and proverbial phrases are from the School's Collection Proverb Index. This collection was made in the late 1930s and is in the Department of Irish Folklore, University College, Dublin. It exists for 26 of the counties of Ireland. So far I have indexed 4 counties (Monaghan - Mo, Louth, Cavan - Cav and Leitrim - Le) and am at present working on a 5th - Sligo. These counties stretch from west to east in a band immediately south of the political border of Northern Ireland. At the time of the collection this area would have been English-speaking with the odd person who remembered some Irish here and there. Each county is numbered separately, starting from zero. The numbers after the proverbs refer to their manuscripts (Mo 22.1 is in School Manuscript 945, page 46). Only proverbial phrases which had a related proverb in the index of the same county were indexed, thus the Louth phrases have no index number and neither does one of the Leitrim phrases. All of the above examples were found in lists of proverbs and proverbial phrases; only a few had any comment with them, such as another proverbial phrase, by way of explanation. These are in brackets after the manuscript number. In total Monaghan has 1142 different proverbs, Louth 679, Cavan 1960, and Leitrim 1217.

NOTE

Previously published in Proverbium 3 (1986), pp. 253-256.
Permission to publish this article granted by Proverbium (Editor: Prof. Wolfgang Mieder, University of Vermont, USA). 

Fionnuala Williams
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